Movie Guns XI

Hello again, and welcome to Movie Guns XI. I usually post on Sundays, but I have the time right now, so here it is.

I went movie shopping the other day for a specific movie for this weeks post, but I found one instead that I haven't seen in years that definitely fit the bill. An excellent gun movie that features many different 1911's and Smith & Wesson revolvers, this weeks post is on the film Dead Presidents.

There are some awesome firefights to be seen, but as usual when I go frame by frame I find all kinds of things that I'm not supposed to. Some of the actors in the film show terrible gun handling skills, but there are some authentic things that lead me to believe that the directors (Albert and Allen Hughes) at least vaguely listened to their military advisor/armorer.

The first gun pictured in the film is at the beginning and has Kirby (Kieth David) taking a Stainless Steel Smith & Wesson (S&W) Model 36 from a store owners wife before he punches her in the face. He then fights with the store owner, who pulls off his prosthetic leg, where he then falls down next to the man and puts the little revolver in his face:


That man looks terrified. Kirby later lays the gun down on the seat of the getaway car where I got a couple of close ups:



Fromwhat I can see, the gun is not loaded. Next up, we are off to South East Asia.

The movie has three friends who join the Marine Corps and go to Vietnam. Anthony (Larenz Tate) and Skippy (Chris Tucker) are in a Force Recon unit that gets in big firefights while using a variety of different weapons.

The first fight shows Anthony blasting away with this Mossberg 590, which he double racks the slide at one point; ejecting a live shell:


Here is another cool shot of him racking the slide the right way:


Cleon (Bokeem Woodbine) is carrying a M3 "Grease gun" which he often fires from the hip with his eyes closed:


Here he is with the most awful chicken wing stance that I have ever seen:


Notice the M16A1 that Dugan (Jamez Woolvet) is firing. Several of these are shown in the hands of the Marines. It has the basic three-prong flash hider like the first M16, but you can see that it has a forward assist which was a feature of the M16A1. Here's a left side view of Dugan firing on semi:


The sling mount by the bayonet lug is duct taped to keep it from making noise which is common practice amongst Marines.

Next we have D'ambrosio (Michael Imperioli), who had been using one of the cross-breed M16A1's in the first firefight, now carrying a Russian PPSh-41 submachine gun:


This gun fires the little 7.62x25mm Tokarev cartridge and would probably be very useful in a small unit behind enemy lines.

In one firefight, they get in a tangle with a NVA unit that has a RPD machine gun:


Here is Dugan firing away in the jungle with a M1911, probably a Colt:


I have to point out that for a Force Recon unit, they sure don't act like one. There is plenty of coughing, talking, and shouting while on patrol, and at one point they are all cleaning weapons or eating, and not one of them has a functional weapon in their hand. Then there are the things that you can't see unless you slow the film down a bit, like when Cleon executes a tied up prisoner with a M1911, you can see that the slide is locked back when he puts it to the guys head and fires.

At this point, the movie moves back to New York where everyone is struggling to make a living. A mean pimp named Cutty (Clifton Powell) knocks Anthony down the stairs and pulls out a chromed 1911 oof unkown make and puts it in his face:


Notice the hammer is down, which is odd considering that he had just racked the slide to presumably chamber a round.

This is pretty much where it gets to be 1911 and S&W galore. Anthony, Kirby, Skippy, Jose (Freddy Rodriguez), and Delilah (N'Bushe Wright) are sitting at a table planning the heist of an armored car. Sitting on the table are several 1911's which I couldn't get a shot of, and this blued S&W Model 36:


What happens next is a big gunfight when the heist goes bad. Kirby starts blasting with a stainless 1911 at a random cop who wanders into the fray:



The cop takes a fighting stance and returns fire with what I believe to be a S&W Model 10:


The cop eventually takes cover behind a post office box like he's supposed to, but Skippy takes the cops life by shooting him in the back of the head with this stainless steel 1911, which somehow fired even though the hammer was clearly down:


Anthony convinces one of the cops to drop his sidearm with this cutoff, pistol gripped Remington Model 870:


The armored car guards are carrying S&W Model 10's like this one that was dropped:


The only thing odd about this gun is that the screws on the side do not match any of the S&W revolvers that I can find. I'm sure it's a Model 10, but if I'm wrong please let me know. Here is a picture of one holstered, and one on the loading dock which is stoked with lead round nose cartridges:



Jose is carrying this revolver which is the real mystery gun because I can't get a better picture of it:


Delilah pops out of a dumpster with a brace of 1911's and cuts down a guard:


When she gets killed, she hits the ground at slide lock:


I had to count and re-count the shots fired during this scene. Kirby fires 11 rounds from his 1911 without reload, and the cop fires back with 9 rounds from his revolver; of course without reload. Anthony racks the shotgun about 7 times and fires twice, and I couldn't tell how many rounds Delilah fired. I can say that she had her eyes closed the entire time that she was emptying those .45's - twice.

Overall, you can't tell these things while watching the movie, so don't think less of it. The shootouts are good-to-go, and the amount of cool hardware that they bring to the fight makes this an excellent gun movie.

Update: Commenter Ed Harris notes that the revolver that I labeled as S&W Model 10, is in fact a Colt Official Police. Great catch, and thank you for identifying it!

Licensing the Right intention

Via The Breda Fallacy - An Ohio man was stopped by cops for open carrying (OC) and recorded the whole thing. He says that the cops were very professional, with the exception of the sergeant who had this to say:

Sergeant: "Your permit allows you to carry concealed. It’s not an invitation, it’s not a permit to carry with it exposed so you can go on your self-righteous tangent about educating people about the Second Amendment. I'm all for the Second Amendment, I’m a huge supporter, NRA card carrying member, all that good shit. I’m not talking down to you as a gun grabber or anti gun piece of shit. Bottom line is you did do something wrong. We can charge you with inducing panic or disorderly conduct. It’s not the intention of the law. It’s not the intention of the right you went and got the license for."

This is yet another reason why I hate being "permitted" to carry my little pistol. I covered some of my reasons awhile ago. The Constitution doesn't protect my right to "keep and bear arms only in the possession of a valid state permit, and only concealed." It doesn't protect my right to carry "in the manner that some federal, state, or local law enforcement officer or elected official says it does."

It says I can keep and bear them. Period.

"Licensing" or "permitting" me to exercise my right is as close to having it taken away as I can possibly stand. There is also this disconnect within the gun rights community as far as "I'm a gun owner too, but...," mantra, and it seems to be the the case with this cop as well:

While Bryan is talking about the Second Amendment:

Sergeant:
"Shut up, don’t talk to me about that, I taught the goddamn class. It doesn’t allow you to walk around with it exposed."

I can't see that we're gaining any ground as long as we're condoning the outright control of our rights with these little cards that say what someone else thinks they are.

Bad idea of the quarter

This probably started out innocently enough - from Penny Arcade, via The Agitator.

Pretty cool find

I was looking into the saga of Nye County District Attorney Robert Beckett getting picked up for DUI after crashing his car twice, when I came across a good article from 2005 on tyranny by none other than Ron Paul. It's on page four on the right. Here's some of the meat from the article:

Washington DC provides a vivid illustration of what our future might look like. Visitors to Capitol Hill encounter police barricades, metal detectors, paramilitary officers carrying fully automatic rifles, police dogs, IDchecks, and vehicle stops. The people are totally disarmed; only the police and criminals have guns. Surveillance cameras are everywhere, monitoring street activity, subway travel, parks, and federal buildings. There's not much evidence of an open society in Washington, DC, yet most folks do not complain-- anything goes if it's for government-provided safety and security.

That's getting more true by the minute, and it doesn't look like there's any end in sight.

Government ignoring the problem

You mean to tell me that government would carry out secret tests against our troops, and then not take care of them? Who would have guessed that?

Actually, this has been done before, so it should shouldn't be a surprize.

Guns don't cause suicide

Apparently hydrogen sulphide does.

From January to May this year, close to 520 people committed suicide using hydrogen sulphide gas. There were only 30 cases involving the gas in the same period in 2007, the report showed.

This is in Japan. It is interesting to note that Russia and Japan have the high suicide rates, and they're known as being almost completely disarmed. That doesn't seem to stop those who are bound and determined to end their lives:

Japan, which has the second-highest suicide rate in the Group of Eight nations after Russia according to the World Health Organisation, has also been trying to tackle the root of the problem.

The "root of the problem" is not the method, but the mentality. The Brady Campaign likes to note that in the US, "30,000 people are killed annually by guns," which includes the 17,000+ who kill themselves with firearms, but they never concede to that. The mentality is that without a gun, people would be less likely to kill themselves. I disagree.

People who intend to kill themselves know very well that a gunshot to the head or jumping off of a bridge is permanent, and that eating 30 Tylenol probably won't be. There will always be a means, so focusing on the method is pointless.

Yikes!!

I normally refrain from posts that deal with political stuff, but Obama is saying shit that makes me think that this country is not long for this world if he were to be elected.

Obama said he wouldn't discuss what approach he would take to bring bin Laden to justice if he were apprehended. But he said the Nuremberg trials for the prosecution of Nazi leaders are an inspiration because the victors acted to advance universal principles and set a tone for the creation of an international order.

Now I know he is talking about how he would handily "bring Osama Bin-Laden to justice" (snicker; why didn't anyone think of this before?), but the fact is that this man, like Kerry, would gladly felate the UN in order to bring "international order" to the US.

What, like this kind of international order? The US doesn't need that sort of order. Thanks though.

On top of that, he casts away people who have been helping the president prosecute a war because:

"I refuse to be lectured on national security by people who are responsible for the most disastrous set of foreign policy decisions in the recent history of the United States," Obama said in opening remarks that in part referred to the Iraq war.

Awesome! So because your an elitist, you won't take any advise from those who have been there and done that, and have mistakes and lessons learned to show for it? Who, pray tell, does he get his advise from?

He stood in front of 17 American flags and a sign that said "Judgment to Lead." He was surrounded by national security experts who had formerly served in Congress and the Clinton administration and will be advising his campaign — an effort to bring foreign policy experience to a candidate who has served just three years in Congress.

That Clinton's administration was filled with experienced experts is laughable. I'm not a fan of McCain either, but Obama can't really lecture a man who's not only served, fought, and bled in a war, but is actually trying to win it instead of forfeiting because he doesn't know what it's like to be shot at and still succeed.

Fireworks training, ATF style

Good thing I wasn't drinking coffee when I read this. Here's the skinny:

A live fireworks demonstration was put on Wednesday by the Council of Governments Fire Chief's Committee, the D.C. Fire and EMS Department and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.

The demonstration at the D.C. Fire and EMS Training Academy was intended to show citizens that fireworks should only be used by trained professionals.

What's next on the ATF's list of things that they consider dangerous, and that only they are "authorized," "competent" or "trained" to do? Driving? Body boarding? Jumprope?

Please, save us from ourselves!

Daily dose of DC stupidity

So there's like, all kinds of shootings and stuff in DC yesterday, which is of course impossible, but it still makes idiots cry for more gun control because when defenseless people are slaughtered, or gangbangers eradicate themselves, it's the guns fault:

Both of the people arrested had guns, officials said.

D.C. Council member Marion Barry said officials will have to step up their efforts to get guns off the streets.

Yeah, if you just get those guns off the street then everybody will be peaceful because no one can get hurt! Perfect Plan! Why didn't anyone think of this sooner!

Notice that despite the cops quick response time, they arrived after the bloodshed.

I'm on a fishing expedition

And by fishing I mean that I'm fishing for a location, specifically a pond, to go fishing. All of my local haunts have dried up (literally) because of the sprawling, urban sea of vinyl siding that is quickly taking over my once country home town.

Damn developers....and...well, beavers too. They got one of the ponds where I spent much of my youth.

When I was a wee lad, I had plenty of time and locations to fish. My friends and I would wander about looking for new and exciting places to hunt or fish, and when we found something we were interested in, we would ask for permission from the landowner so we didn't get an ass full of rock salt. Sometimes helping out with chores or what-not would be enough for a year or two of angling goodness. Sometimes it was a simple as promising a local farmer the complete extermination of every groundhog within a country mile of his or her property. Twist my arm, right? I don't know any farmers who haven't sold out to the developers nowadays, and making a promise to kill critters on someone's land in this day and age will not make you any friends.

So why ponds?

There is great fishing to be had on several lakes and rivers in the area, but you really need a bass boat for the lakes, and the river requires more than the couple of hours which is all I have. To tell you the truth, I'm a pier-rat at heart because I love the ocean, and the chance of hooking into something huge is almost inevitable, but I don't get around to going to the beach but once every couple of years. Who's got the time? I would love to retire on the ocean somewhere on the east coast just so I can park my ass on a folding chair on the pier and fish for sharks until my skin blisters off. I'm the guy who is walking up onto the pier at 6 am when it opens, frightfully drunk, with a two-day-old Spanish mackerel head on a 5/0 hook, insisting that I'm fishing for croaker. I stay until I'm told to leave by the pier staff, and then I start it all over in the morning.

But I can't do that very often, so I hit the local ponds to satisfy my urge to snag a poor fish with a sharp piece of metal. I have now learned that technology is my friend, and that the average Joe can now access up-to-date satellite imagery to scan miles and miles of land, and then use interactive, geographic boundary programs to find out who owns the property. All from the safety of your home! Now all I have to do is drive around and check out all of the water that I have printed out directions for. Piece of cake!

I don't have the time to carry a canoe or drag a john boat down to the waters edge, but one day I hope to again have the time. For now I will just have to be satisfied cast a line in small ponds while on foot and remind myself that that is how I started!

Snake assault

On a toad (with great pictures).

Cool!

Thanks again!

Again, my regards to James, GunPundit/Murdoc, Gearcult and Uncle. Thanks to ya'll, I was getting more hits in an hour than I normally do in several days.

My state taxes at work

Not to be cold hearted or anything, but it is not the responsibility of Virginians to pay for a gunman's actions. Here's where the disconnect lies:

Some families and others have complained about the university's response after the dorm shootings.

What of the universities response before the shootings?

What we need is grenade control

To stop stuff like this:

Sources told News4 that two to three stacks of hand grenades and 50-caliber ammunition was found in a locker at Fort Knox Self Storage in the 15400 block of Depot Lane.

Well duh! It's Fort Knox!

Sarcasm people.

Only the military should have guns!

And you will still have spree shootings like this.

South Carolina reciprocity!!

It's about time! From the VCDL, which you should be signed up for their outstanding alert system regardless of your state of residence, comes this message (It was emailed to me and has not hit their website yet):

The Governor of South Carolina has just signed a bill that will open up reciprocity to any state that honors South Carolina!

The law becomes effective IMMEDIATELY and is now in force.

Virginia ALREADY honors South Carolina, so formal reciprocity should be a slam-dunk!!!

HOWEVER, it is not in affect yet. So **DO NOT carry concealed** in South Carolina until I put the word out (Virginia and South Carolina have to sign a reciprocity agreement first).

I have left a voice message with Tom Lambert who does reciprocity work for the Virginia State Police. Hopefully the State Police will jump on this quickly.

As soon as we can begin carrying, there will be an alert going out to let you know.

Many thanks to Jim Mullins, my counterpart in the West Virginia Citizens Defense League (wvcdl.org), for staying on top of this and letting me know the new law was coming.

And of course, a big thanks to the gun organizations in South Carolina for continuing to fight for this law tirelessly over the years!
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VCDL is getting some new hardware and software. The VCDL site will be down for a while tonight and the VA-ALERT list server will down for a while, too.

Good stuff!!

Cops intimidated by python

No, not that one......this one. Apparently the man was arrested because he told the snake to attack the police. That's not a joke:

When the building superintendent opened the apartment door for the officers, Rodriguez allegedly told the snake, "Get them!", according to Viadero.

Rodriguez and his pet were both taken away: Rodriguez to jail on a $10,000 bond, and the albino python to the city's animal control shelter.

This guy may have been an asshole, or maybe he was kidding around with his girlfriend. Maybe he's a real life scumbag, or maybe he's a great guy. Either way, to arrest him for "ordering" a snake to attack is just childish, and the cops need to have their mental capacity checked by a professional.

I'm not original

Friendly Fred has pointed out in Movie Guns X comments that Madogre has a "The Guns of :" movie section, which I just checked out. Honestly, I had no idea that Madogre existed, or that he had a section highlighting the various guns that are used in movies until Friendly Fred pointed it out. His section gives great detail to the shootouts and weapons used, and he has covered many of the same movies that I have. Great minds think alike.

My Movie Guns posts started out because I was goofing off with capturing frames from movies that featured 1911's, and it kinda turned into a weekly thing which I will keep up. The first movie that I covered was the movie WAR with Jet Li and Jason Statham. In that post I was actually mocking the movie for inaccuracies, and I went back later and made it the first of the movie guns section.

I like pictures so I try to capture some of the gunplay and give a brief overview in order to fully understand the scene. Unfortunately, I'm not very familiar with firearms from western movies, or cap-and-ball/muzzleloading firearms for that matter, but I will get educated shortly because I would like to feature some films with these types of weapons. There are awesome firefights in older movies and I want to find them.

So I guess I'm not very original, and I don't want to take away anything from Madogre, but I will try to offer something different in my posts. If you have any requests, let me know and I will try to accommodate.

Thanks Fella's

For the linkage. I love posting movie guns and I'm glad that others share my interest.

My regards to James, GunPundit/Murdoc, and Gearcult. My Sitemeter is finally showing more than one digit per hour!

Who could have possibly forseen this happening?

Who would have thought that paroling a violent felon back into society would lead to this?

That's just crazy! Maybe they should pass some reeeeeeaaaaally strict gunlaws so he couldn't ever get ahold of a gun, because that sort of thinking would stop guys like that in his tracks:

Prieto said Topete had ties to gangs and served 12 years in prison for shooting another person.

"He is not a stranger to violence," Prieto said of Topete.

Six Flags not so safe?

How could anyone get stabbed at a park as safe as Six Flags? I mean, they have policy in place and everything; see, it says no knives:

PROHIBITED ITEMS
In addition to all items previously mentioned, the following items are not permitted at Six Flags America, at any time:
Lawn chairs and folding chairs
Magic markers, spray paint and aerosol cans
Glass bottles
Knives
Spiked clothing or jewelry
Fireworks and explosives
Firearms and ammunition
Chemical weapons, including mace and pepper spray

I'm terrified of the spiked jewelry, and the magic markers just make sense because you never know when some kid may get the urge to see if it smells good or not. You just can't be too safe these days.

Being defenseless is great!

Lots of shooting in DC last week.

Somehow I missed this last week, but it would seem that the Metro police blockades did absolutely nothing at all towards stopping violence, but it did manage to piss off the country. Great work.

To reflect on this recent insanity, let's have a recap:

In "Gun Free" DC, there are 9 shootings in one weekend.
Chief Lanier decides that an unconstitutional neighborhood blockade will stop the killing.
10 people are shot throughout the following week.

So what was accomplished? To me it looks like a bunch of bureucratic posturing, with no real idea of how to actually stop crime. Here's your dose of stupid for today:

Tommy Thomas, who represents Ward 5 on the D.C. Council, said the checkpoints are only a start.

"Communities have a lot of issues that we're not dealing with in a holistic approach," he said. "I think a lot of our communities are resorting to violence because there's just a sense of frustration, a sense of lack of conflict resolution."

This idiot thinks that criminals sit around frustrated because they are unsure of how to sell heroine on Capitol Heights Blvd. without angering rival gangs! Gangbangers are killing everything in sight because they believe they have a superior sense of conflict resolution. The real problem is that peaceable DC residents lack a method of conflict resolution that matches the criminal element's.

How about a double dose of stupid:

"We're out there every Saturday, and it's pretty blatant," said the Rev. Carlos Williams. "There's no regard for police or fear. There is no fear in that neighborhood whatsoever."

Really? Well that settles it then. Chief Lanier should send all of the cops home, and everyone else should go outside at night and enjoy the cool breeze while petting puppies and singing hymns. Jackass!

The police sure as hell can't protect the citizen. That much is proven. Maybe DC law enforcement should stick with dance enforcement instead.

Movie Guns X

Better late than never, right? And happy Father's Day! I know that I missed last weeks movie guns post, and for that I am deeply sorry. This week I decided to ramp it up with over 30 - some pictures in order to make it up to you.

So what movie is in the works for this week? None other than:



This title page from the Michael Mann film Heat shows a BG with a Colt M4A3 firing on auto. Michael Mann is a stickler for firearm accuracy, and this movie is no exception. Featuring oodles of gun porn that a gun geek can only dream of, Heat contains one of the most exciting shootouts in movie history.

The pictures in this post will roughly follow in the order that they appear in the film. I was certain that I knew the make and model of every gun in the movie, but I did some research with a few of them and changed my mind. Let's start with this frame of a FN FAL Para held by Michael Cheritto (Tom Sizemore) during the beginning heist of an armored car:


On his vest is a Ruger P90 and multiple spare magazines, which if you look closely you can see that they are empty:


Trejo (Danny Trejo) runs a spike strip across the road while carrying a Chinese Type 56 rifle with underfolding stock:


Waingro (Kevin Gage) has a blued Star Megastar, in what looks like .45 ACP, which he uses to kill an armored car guard:


I'd love to have one of those in 10mm.

Chris Shiherlis (Val Kilmer) has a Colt M4A1 which he uses to gun down another guard when he draws a revolver from an ankle holster:


I couldn't get a pic of the revolver, nor could I get a good shot of the Colt Commando that McCauley (Robert DeNiro) has during the robbery. Some of them are wearing body armor with hard plates, and all of the rifles are slung with bungee cords that are configured like a large number eight. They put an arm through each loop on the eight, and there is another bungee cord that runs down from this and attaches to the rifle with a snap hook. There are better slings these days, but those look like they worked just fine considering they used them later on during another robbery.

The second gunfight happens during a money drop. Two bad guys try to take out the main cast of bad guys (McCauley, Cheritto, and Chris) by staging a phony money drop which goes bad. One of the bad guys has a Steyr TMP:


But he gets shot by Chris with a Heckler & Koch G3 who does a needless judo roll from his position on a roof:


And then he is finished off by McCauley who is firing a H&K USP through the windshield of the car:


The bad guy in the truck is also shot by Chris, but Cheritto finishes him off with some judicious use of a Benelli M3 Super 90:



These scenes are just teasers. The main event is the legendary shootout during a bank robbery in the middle of downtown Los Angeles. This is the same scene that was allegedly viewed by the scumbags in the North Hollywood shootout before they went on their shooting spree, only nobody told them that a shootout like this is fiction.

We start inside the bank with a shot of McCauley's vest holding eight magazines and a Sig P220, and Chris in the light suit with his finger on the trigger and the selector on semi. Looking closely at another frame shows McCauley has his selector on auto with his finger firmly on the trigger. Safety violator.



Of note is that they flex-cuff one of the guards but leave his pistol in his holster. Very strange.

Cheritto carries a IMI Galil with a folding stock:


Outside of the bank, and seconds before he ignites the firefight, Chris shows the level of training and realism that is injected into Michael Mann's gunfight scenes with this frame showing proper sight alignment and sight picture:


Here he is missing the cops at about thirty feet distance with automatic rifle fire from a Colt Commando:


Later he does an excellent reload with the Colt, and unleashes some suppressing fire:




McCauley is also firing a Colt Commando as can be seen here with him shooting through the windshield again. In the really real world all of the passengers would be very deaf from the report of three rifles going off within the confines of the car:


Here he is laying down suppressing fire:


Unfortunately, there are no shots of Cheritto shooting it out with the Galil, but the cops answer back with some firepower of their own, like this frame of two cops carrying an M16A1 and a Mossberg 500:



Before the firefight, the cop with the shotgun racks a shell into the chamber one-handed (not likely unless he had just fired the gun which unlocks the slide), in front of a crowd of people, with his finger on the trigger, and only about 50 feet from the BG's. Bad tactics.

Detective Hanna ( Al Pacino) is shooting back with a FN FNC:




In the last frame, he takes cover behind a car while he reloads, but when he goes to chamber a round he ejects a live cartridge. You can see it as the goldish line just off of his chin. In one scene in first person view, Hanna is firing the rifle at nothing. Ooops. But he did have some good advice for the other cops before the shootout when he says "get clean shots...watch your background."

There is, of course, the token Berretta 92F which is in pretty much every movie ever made:


And I have no idea what would make the holes in this police car besides steel rounds from a 30mm auto-cannon. Obviously, the 5.56mm NATO is the round that is fired in all of the BG's rifles, but there is no way they would make holes like this. Ted Kennedy would have a fit



Later, Hanna and another detective are in an elevator getting ready to raid an apartment. Hanna has a Colt Officers model that he pulls out for a brass check:



I have heard that this method of checking to see if there is a live round in the chamber was popular back in the day, but where I come from anything that is not the actual finger that you manipulate the trigger with is a foreign object; to include your thumb. Recently a Federal Flight Deck Officer showed the US government why their requirement for putting foreign objects in trigger guards is a bad idea.

Anyways, the other detective loads some peculiar blue, low-brass slugs into the Mossberg 500 that he is using, and then does another dramatic racking of the slide in the hallway of the apartment complex mere feet from the door they're about to breach. You can clearly hear that the gun is empty:



Later on, McCauley goes back to kill Waingro for tipping the cops off about the bank heist. He realises that the cops are in the hotel because he sees this Ithaca 37 shorty behind the desk, which I had originally thought was a Remington 870:


McCauley does the dangerous brass check with a Sig P220 while in the elevator on his way up to Waingro:



Before this scene, he uses the Sig to kill a money laundering investor by shooting him three times, at which point the slide is locked back, but when the camera pans back to McCauley, the slide is in battery.

Waingro is armed with another Star Megastar; this one in stainless steel. Notice the finger on trigger, safety off, and hammer back. Rule number three!



Towards the end, I caught this frame of a SWAT officer with an unknown make 1911 in a thigh holster; probably a Kimber. Next to him are two fellow SWAT officers with H&K MP5's:



The last picture I have is from the title screne again. This is a Colt M4A3 ejecting real fired brass and not blanks like during the film:


All of the Colts used in the movie had the A1 sights, but this picure clearly shows the A3 detachable carry handle.

If you haven't treated yourself to the movie Heat, you need to. It's pretty long, but it has a great cast and lots of action. Not to mention a great story line. The gun handling is good, despite the chicken wing stance of Val Kilmer or fingers in triggers, and you can tell that someone addressed it because they will have their finger straight in other scenes. Al Pacino uses a good stance and grip, and he keeps the gun locked in front of his view as he is scanning for the threat at the end.

Well, I hope I delivered on making up for a week of no movie guns. Enjoy!

Update: As noted in comments, the Mossberg shotgun is actually a Model 590, which is identified by the deadly "barrel shroud" that makes NY Senator McCarthy stink in her slacks. Good eye. I don't know how I missed that one.

Update: My readership has reminded to that I have some errors on this page, and that for correctness sake I should fix them. Sorry it took so long.

First up, the picture of the title screen shows what I now believe to be a Colt Commando Model 933. I had originally labeled it a Colt M4A3 due to the A3 carrying handle. The weapon is a flat top full auto sporting a 11 1/2" barrel sans bayonet lug, and includes the case deflector that dings up perfectly good brass, as well as a forward assist.

Contrary to popular belief, this was the last picture I copied from the movie, not the first, and I almost didn't include it because I didn't even notice it until I was just about done loading the pictures to Photobucket. It was more of an after thought. Further, I didn't assume every AR pattern rifle was the same as this one; indeed, I noted at the bottom that it was peculiar that this rifle was pictured on the title page with the A3 carrying handle, while all the others in the body of the film had an A1.

Next, the AR rifles used during the armored car heist are not Colt M4A1's like I originally thought. They have all of the makings of the Colt Model 654, except for the 16" barrel, which would make it a civilian model, or a franken gun. I suspect the latter. Wikipedia has it fitting the R6003 model. Who knows.

I concur with Professional Adventurer in that the H&K rifle that Chris uses to shoot at the truck is a G3, which is the basis of the series of those particular rifles, but I have to give a hat tip to GM45 in that the rifle is a semi-auto type, which would make it a HK91A2 Model. Good eye.

GM45 has noted that the handguards on the M16A1 are of the A2 variety, and that the lower receiver is actually a civilian type AR-15/SP1. That would make this a franken gun, and from what I gather from some of the posts on IMFDB, of which GM45 is a heavy contributor, many of the AR type rifles on film are pieced together from many different parts.

Last, I again concur with GM45; the model rifle that Chris and McCauley use during the bank shootout are Colt Model 733s. I had them ID'd as Colt Commandos, which they are, but that is the series and not the model. Sometimes I take the short route, and I'm glad I am held to a higher standard by my readers. I thank you for that.

I will be updating more of the Movie Guns posts, as I can.

Same lies, different day

The War on Guns catches the media flounting the same garbage about Mexican drug cartels getting class III weapons like machine guns from gun shows. The FN FiveSeveN hysteria is bunk too.

At least they're not getting any more Super Pistols, or things could really get out of hand.

Update: A Keyboard and a .45 has more.

This will put a smile on your face

Via The War on Guns. Awesome stuff!

Brady Camp's lies

Over at Armed Canadian, this post details how the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Ownership lies through their teeth about the facts. Found via Says Uncle.

Read it, you won't be disappointed.

I'm home

I got back home from travel last night. My mental clock is severely screwed up, but my blogging should return to normal here shortly.

Nice cache ya got there!

So the scumbag who went on a stabbing spree after crashing into a crowd of people with a rented truck in Japan had a "cache" of knives:

TOKYO - Investigators searching the apartment of the suspect in a bloody Tokyo rampage found evidence Tuesday he bought a small cache of knives and other weapons just before the assault, police said.

So does that mean that if I buy several cars, and I use one to plow into a crowd to cause as much death as I can, that I would have purchased a "cache of motor vehicles?" It would seem that the truck was pretty much as lethal as the knives:

Three people were killed by the impact of the truck, four died from stab wounds and another 10 were injured, police said. Kato, blood spattered on his face and clothes, was arrested on the spot.

As I've said before, guns do not enable mass killing. The mind of a scumbag is all that is needed.

Excellent rant

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Don't try this at home

Some Amazing Home Remedies over at Trajectory. Check it out.

Disregard my last

There will be a movie guns this week on Sunday because of my oversight in regards to the bureaucratic mess that the US government has made with overseas travel.

Yay incompetence!

No Movie Guns this week

I am not within 7,000 miles of my home computer at this moment. The next two weeks don't look good either.

I apologize for this, and I promise to make it up when I return.

Some facts on Obama

From over at Of Arms and the Law, via Says Uncle.

Ooooh! Ooooh! Bumper stickers!

At No Looking Backwards.

Make um! I'm in!

DC's unconstitutional-do-nothing-blockade not working

Crazy! I mean, you would think that stopping people from moving freely about a city would stop murderous gangbangers in their tracks. How frightening!

I guess if Chief Lanier wants to take it to the next step, she would need to show these guys how she makes her power trip.

Or maybe try some diplomacy, since that is bound to work on those of such esteemed virtue.

Not working? How about a conference?

Seriously. What's it gonna take to get through to these jackasses? Tons of cops? Being super close to the crime? Door-to-door searches?

Damnit!!

"It is the hard heart that kills" - R. Lee Ermey

Japan has its fair share of scumbags just like we do.

A Japanese mutant kills seven people with a knife because he was "tired of living." Why these people can't be satisfied to just off themselves is beyond logic.

As many have said before me, trying to stop behaviour like this by controlling the weapon is an exercise in futility. There is no sure fire way to stop spree killers, and the only person who is immediately there to do something about it is yourself. Waiting for the cops to arrive is not going to stop this:

"I'll crash my vehicle into people and if the vehicle becomes useless, I'll get out a knife. Goodbye everyone!" said one posting hours before the crime, as quoted by Japanese media.

On Sunday, he drove a rented two-tonne truck some 100 kilometres (60 miles) from the town of Susano to Tokyo, swerving the vehicle into pedestrians before bursting out and stabbing at random with a survival knife.

He is in police custody. I'm not sure how tough Japan is on criminals, and they have ensured that there will be no resistance to killers like this douchebag, but let's hope he gets what he deserves.

Too close to home

Tragedy has struck in my home town. Fredericksburg Police Officer Todd Bahr was killed in the line of duty by a scumbag at an apartment complex a few miles from my house.

My prayers go out to his family.

A few weeks ago I was thinking about how fortunate it was that a cop has not been killed for such a long time in my area. I'll keep such thoughts suppressed from now on.

DC roundup

The Agitator has a roundup of all of the tomfoolery that DC officials are using to destroy their constituents rights.

Go read.

Media, DA not holding scumbags accountable

The headline reads "DA: Debt, Sex Drove Entwistle To Kill Family;" I disagree.

I say that an impotent piece of shit killed his wife outright, and should hang for it. Why the DA thinks that because this guy couldn't get it up with his wife, that that's somehow the reason for killing her. To murder someone, especially someone you supposedly love, for little or no reason is a surefire sign that not all of your dogs are barkin, as the expression goes. This guy is crazy. Period.

If there's enough evidence, then kill him, or at least put him in a box for the rest of his life.

Still, you've gotta see the irony of a Brit coming to Massachusetts and killing his wife with a handgun. Don't they have laws to stop things like this?

Armed self defense works

In Phoenix, a homeowner kills an armed intruder with a rifle; the rest of the intruders fled.

No word on why the intruder didn't simply disarm the homeowner.

Felons can get guns? Weird!

This idiot got caught.

Letting a 6 year old handle an unloaded firearm may scare some people - pointing it at a camera is not a great idea - but I don't see that it's such a big deal. Educating youth about firearms is important. As for him being a felon, that could mean just about anything, however, the article does say that he has a long criminal history, so he doesn't sound like the best guy in the world. He also had the dreaded "SKS assault rifle." The media wouldn't know an assault rifle if it bit them on the ass.

This is the trash that the media peddles to make gun owners look bad, despite the fact that he shouldn't have owned firearms in the first place.

More crossbow killings

This might be the start of a trend considering a man killed his wife with a crossbow in VA Beach earlier this week.

Check out the evil picture at the bottom. We will probably hear about "crossbow registration" here shortly.

Blind Justice

In Kalifonia, a man stealing tires off of a car is crushed to death by said car.

School placed on "modified lockdown?"

This buisiness of "locking down" schools and such for any imaginable reason is beyond retarded.

This kid pulled a "Gothic Fighting Knife" during a fight, and then ran away. Apparently he was busted for having a baseball bat on school property in March. I don't see how that warrents such a dramatic response.

I don't know about you, but I am seriously considering homeschooling my kids, lest they get "lockdown" at school over some poor 11 year old with a plastic butter knife.

Chiefy is taking the gloves off

I've been on travel so I didn't catch this, but you can read all about it at No Looking Backwards.

Chief Lanier is setting up "Neighborhood Safety Zones" where cops stop and interrogate people who are trying to get around in the city. I guess all of her previous ideas weren't controversial enough.

Too bad DC folk will continue to let this stuff go on without challenge. Like I said, DC needs a regime change.

Update: I found this headline at NBC4 to be disingenuous "D.C. Police To Set Up Safety Checks In Violent Areas." So that's what the media thinks this jackboot policy is? Good grief.

Shooting in Tucson

From this articles perspective, the shooter had an automatic weapon. That would put it well outside of the "assault weapons ban."

Sadly, the police officer did not survive.

When rocks, beer bottles, penis, fish, and spit are outlawed.....

You know the rest. All of these nasty assault weapons were used to...well...assault some folks.

Shouldn't there be a law?

We need crossbow control

To stop husbands from spontaneously killing their wives.

No word on whether the NRA is involved.

The cops are "so close"

"So many police out there they actually hear the shots, alot of times when they're fired they're able to respond quickly" - reporter Darcy Spencer quoting Chief Lanier; talking about the increased police presence in DC.

So if they are responding that fast and they're still finding bodies at the crime scene, then why trust your life solely to them? It is still up to you to protect yourself until police get there.

Bizaar

Armed robbers wearing thongs as masks.

Puppycide in DC

A DC police officer shot a leashed dog that was enclosed inside of a fence, and then came back and shot it twice more while the dogs owner had it cradled in her lap. The dog died.

6th Distric Commander Robert Contee says it was justified, but the woman who was holding her dying dog when the cop shot it again said "He could of easily shot me. He could of shot the people over there. He could of shot innocent bystanders."

How the dog posed a threat while leashed and enclosed is not known, but shooting it while the owner is holding it is just reckless. Why did he come back to finish it off?

9 killed in DC this weekend?

That just can't be, ya know, cos' " Gun Free" DC has all of those tough gun control laws to stop gangbangers from getting their hands on firearms.

Police said that officers shot and killed a man shortly after 9 p.m. Friday after a domestic dispute in northeast D.C.

Must be nice to be able to protect ones self with a firearm in DC. Here is an overview of the carnage.

Police found three victims, all adult men, when they responded to a report of a shooting at about 12:30 a.m. Saturday on 5344 C Street SE.
One of the victims was pronounced dead at the scene, and the other two were transported to an area hospital with serious injuries, authorities said.

At about 12:52 a.m. Saturday an adult man was shot twice -- once in the cheek and once in the back, police said. Authorities said the man was transported to Washington Hospital Center and was in stable condition with nonlife-threatening injuries.

Police responded to another report of a shooting around the 1100 block of Abbey Place just before 2 a.m. Saturday and found a man with gunshot wounds. The victim was taken to a nearby hospital but died a short time later, authorities said.

At about 4 a.m. Saturday, police responded to the 1100 block of Holbrook Street NE and found three victims with gunshot wounds. All victims died from their injuries. Their ages and identities are unknown at this time, authorities said.

A nonfatal shooting occurred at 3500 Warder St. NW at about 11:36 p.m. Saturday, police said, in which a male victim was shot in the back.

Police said they responded to a report of an unconscious man at about 6 a.m. and found 66-year-old Lawrence Simmons suffering apparent severe trauma to the head. Simmons was pronounced dead at the scene.

Police also confirmed an earlier double shooting at the 4600 block of Livingston Road SE at about 2:41 a.m. Sunday in which two men were shot -- one fatally. A second victim was also located suffering from an apparent gunshot wound to the leg. He was transported to an area hospital and admitted in stable condition. His identity was being withheld because police considered him a witness in this case. The shooting occurred on the grounds of Patricia Harris Elementary School.

And to think that the criminal didn't even obey the law in a school zone. The nerve of these people!!

It must be the NRA's fault. They enter the city at night and peddle their wares, then afterwords they shoot as many people as possible to show how effective their evil guns are.

I've read or heard about shootings like this in DC my whole life to the point where it's like reading about the casualties in Iraq. Only in DC, no progress has ever been made.

To think that I have to go back into that city after dark this week doesn't make me happy. Really, I have to disarm to go into what is argueably the most dangerous city in the country lest my little Glock causes undue harm to an innocent citizen such as myself. Maybe I should find comfort in Chief Lanier's strong words to the criminal element:

"If you're out here shooting people and committing crimes, we're gonna get you. We are gonna get you," Lanier said.

That's sure to have an impact on a 14 year old thugs conscience! "Oh, snap! Don't shoot that old lady man! The Chief will get us!!" It's as if DC officials want the citizens to die. You can't even have pepper spray in DC to defend yourself. WTF?!? Then they come up with ridiculous ideas to stop violent crime like holding a meeting between the gang leaders, but not actually putting said gang leaders in prison for eternity.

It's time for a regime change in DC, and I'm not talking about the criminals.

Marylands gun laws don't work!!

Weird. It's as if criminals find another way around all of the silly red tape that us peaceable citizens must go through.

The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives found that 44 percent of the guns used in Maryland crimes were brought in from over the state line.

Experts attribute the percentage to Maryland's tough gun control laws, but the laws don't stop the illegal gun trade, which presents huge law enforcement challenges.

So Maryland should abandon such useless efforts to control guns, and instead focus on imprisoning criminals, right? Nope:

Daniel Webster of the Johns Hopkins Center for Gun Policy and Research said police should focus on reducing demand for illegal guns with tight enforcement of gun laws.

Lets just keep up with the same ineffective shit that doesn't work.

Pathetic.

Movie Guns IX

As promised, here is this week's movie guns post on Blood Diamond. This movie had some very accurate gunplay as far as realism goes, and Leonardo DiCaprio handles himself quite well. There is no shortage of interesting weapons in this film, with a great deal of them being some sort of AK varient. There are some H&K G3's, M16 A1's, an RPK, as well as an FN FAL or two, but I didn't capture a picture of them as there were no good ones.

I did, however, catch some pictures of some uncommon weapons in the US like this Sterling L2A3 / Mk.4:


And this revolver of unknown make:



At the beginning of the movie, Archer (Leonardo DiCaprio) stepps out of a plane with a Glock 26 sporting a Pierce Grip extension, extended slide release, and riding in a leather small of the back holster. I'm a big fan of the Glock 26 in this configuration, although I'm not into the SOB holsters as my back is already jacked up.


He unloads the Glock before handing it over to a RUF Catain with a Smith & Wesson 686:


Archer also carries this black tanto folder of uknown make. It's not a Smith & Wesson, Emerson, Cold Steel, Kershaw, Gerber, SOG, Boker, KABAR, or many others that I have looked up. It's not an auto, and the giveaway is the serations.



Archer later acquires an H&K USP Compact 9mm to replace the Glock 26 that he gave to the RUF Captain. He uses it to get out of trouble more than once, and quite believeably so. Here it is in a nylon holster:


Here it is being aimed out of the window of an SUV. I thought this was a cool picture with the USP's reflection in the window:


And here is Archer gunning down his former Colonel who is wielding a fullsize H&K USP:


Here is the muzzle of a FN High Power that a RUF Captain is pointing at Solomon Vandy (Djimon Hounsou). Earlier he had a 1911, but I couldn't get a good picture.


Some of the bigger weapons seen in this film are general purpose machine guns like this DShKM 12.7 (.50 caliber) Heavy Machine Gun mounted in the truck. Interesting to see all of the AK toting RUF guys so close to the muzzle of this weapon. They would definitely need earplugs if this thing was firing live rounds.


Here is one of the many RPG-7's that is used in the movie:



Toward the end of the movie, Archer, who is a former mercenary, quietly kills a sentry at night with his knife and takes his AK-47. He uses the AK very effectively during a big firefight by firing it on semi-auto with well aimed shots:


Both eyes are open and he is looking over the sights.


The last picture I have is of Archer holding a Colt Commando with a light, Aimpoint scope, and custom paint job. He flinches every time he fires it, and at one point activates the light:


When Archer takes the Colt off of the body of a mecenary that he had just killed, he takes a few extra magazines for it and his USP. That attention to detail doesn't normally happen in films.

This is a great movie with a lot of action. The content is rather upsetting, but the gunplay is realstic. Somehow I can't see DiCaprio being a gun guy, but he pulls it off in this film.

Enjoy.

Update: Commentor Taylor notes that the unknown revolver is actually a French MLE 73. Thanks for finding that one. My weak spot is definitely revolvers.